Remembering the war in New Guinea - Interview with Apitai Petemes

Interview with Apitai Petemes (Interview)
(Indigenous perspective)
This interview was conducted by Dr Iwamoto Hiromitsu and transcribed/translated by Pastor Jacob Aramans

Petemes: My name is Apitai Petemes. When we finished from school I stayed with a Japanese Army officer (boss) at Luburua. His name was Sinawarang Sang. I carried his gun whenever he went to see his soldiers in the field at Patmalap and Kanalo and back to Luburua.

Dr Iwamoto: Did you get any military training at school?

Petemes: Yes.

Dr Iwamoto: Please tell me more about that military training.

Petemes: There, I learnt how to handle a gun (when in use and when not in use) aiming and firing.

Dr Iwamoto: Did you learn how to use a sword?

Petemes: Yes, I also learnt how to use a sword.

Dr Iwamoto: Did you learn how to use a machine gun?

Petemes: No, I did not learn anything about how to use a machine gun.

Dr Iwamoto: Were you issued with uniforms?

Petemes: I was given a pair of shoes and a hat.

Dr Iwamoto: Were you given any promotion?

Petemes: No, I was not given any promotion.

Dr Iwamoto: Were you the only one to become a soldier?

Petemes: Yes, I was the only person.

Dr Iwamoto: What about the other kids?

Petemes: No, the other kids did not become soldiers. I was the only person to become a soldier in the Japanese Army.

Dr Iwamoto: While you were with the Japanese, did they take you along to other places?

Petemes: Yes, I went with them to Kara.

Dr Iwamoto: What sort of work were you doing at that time?

Petemes: I worked as a personal guard for the boss. I carried my gun with me. I was given orders that if I saw enemies or spies I was to shoot them.

Dr Iwamoto: Did that commander belong to the Lemetai?

Petemes: He was a Lemetai.

Dr Iwamoto: How many soldiers like you were with the Lemetais?

Petemes: I was the only soldier, many were policemen.

Dr Iwamoto: Did any policemen come to the village?

Petemes: Yes they came to the village.

Dr Iwamoto: How many of them? Ten, twenty?

Petemes: More than that number.

Dr Iwamoto: Over a hundred?

Petemes: Many of them.

Dr Iwamoto: Did you receive any pay?

Petemes: No pay.

Dr Iwamoto: You only got food rations?

Petemes: We only got food.

Dr Iwamoto: How did the Japanese soldiers treat your people?

Petemes: They treated us fairly well.

Dr Iwamoto: Didn't they beat you up?

Petemes: They treated the prisoners differently from the students. In fact they treated the prisoners very badly. They beat them up mercilessly but the students were treated nicely.

Dr Iwamoto: Is that all? Do you know more stories about the Japanese?

Petemes: That's all.

Dr Iwamoto: Thank you very much. Very good story. I am happy.



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